You might not think the MCU could get much darker than the end of Infinity War, but fans have some ideas that put Thanos' snap to shame. Some of them involve the Avengers' past, like the theory that speculates Black Widow committed crimes against humanity while in Budapest. Others paint grim pictures of heroes like Doctor Strange and The Falcon, who both may have been working with the enemy from the start. There's even a theory that suggests Nick Fury is in a constant state of mourning after the loss of his "cat."
If you think you've got the superpower to withstand them, check out this list of dark fan theories about the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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Doctor Strange Knew He Had To Sacrifice Tony
From Redditor /u/Quilled:
In Doctor Strange, his solo film, he becomes upset when he realizes that he killed one of Kaecilius' men. He "became a doctor to save lives, not take them" (I might be paraphrasing).
So, what future would Doctor Strange want? A man who took an oath to save lives as a doctor, then another by guarding our realm from mystical beings? The one where the most amount of lives are saved.
That future, was the one where Tony sacrifices his life. Strange himself is saddened by that fact, which is why his tone towards Tony changes after seeing all those futures. He knows that he has to sacrifice Tony to save the universe. Even if it's just one life, that is one too many. But, "it was the only way".
There were other futures, but they involved too much death.
Actually makes a ton of sense? - 2
Black Widow Did Horrible Things In Budapest
From Redditor /u/hootanahalf:
Clue 1: In the first Avengers movie, Black Widow aka Natasha Romanov says, "It's like Budapest all over again!" Hawkeye aka Clint Barton replies: "You and I remember Budapest very differently."
Hypothesis 1: Is it because they were on opposing sides in Budapest?
Clue 2: In Avengers: Endgame, on Vormir, Natasha says: "I don't judge people on their worst mistakes." Clint replies: "Maybe you should." Natasha quips back: "You didn't."
Hypothesis 2: Is it possible that Natasha, given that she originated from the Soviet bloc, did something very bad in Budapest before she was converted in her views and joined Hawkeye and his side? Is Budapest the "worst mistake" she is referring to?
Small addition: As they head to Vormir, Hawkeye says: "We’re a long way from Budapest."
Actually makes a ton of sense? - 3
Hydra Infiltrates The United Nations
From Redditor /u/Lol-Guru:
S.H.I.E.L.D. was crippled by the events of Winter Soldier but Hydra had other bases of operations and other agents globally; they thrive on a decentralized network. While the Avenger's were trying to deal with Ultron I think Hydra was just gathering intelligence and finding ways to control the situation without engaging head to head (after getting savaged in their confrontation at the beginning of Age of Ultron).
Hydra infiltrated the United Nations and made the Sokovia accords to control or divide the Avengers.
Actually makes a ton of sense? - 4
Hulk Meets Black Widow In The Soul World
From Redditor /u/Crispworthy:
Think about it..... we’ve only seen the soul stone used a couple of times;
Thanos wiping out half the universe... and as soon as he does that, he has a moment in the soul world with the one he loves (Gamora: “did you do it?” etc).
When the Hulk used it to bring everyone back.
When Iron Man used it to get rid of Thanos and his army. We then see in a ‘deleted scene’ that Tony has a conversation in the soul world with his loved one (his daughter, all grown up).
SO..... going back to number two, doesn’t it make sense that Hulk got to meet his loved one in the soul world after he used the stones? Especially when we consider that he told Cap (at least I think it was Cap) that he tried to bring her back. How does he know he didn’t!? Everyone appeared exactly where they were when they were dusted, maybe she came back to life there! But no, hulk KNOWS she didn’t... how could he KNOW?? Did Dr. Strange go to Vormir and see if she was bopping around?? It’s possible, but did he chat to Hulk about it? It’s a stretch... also, consider that Thanos meets Gamora in the soul world; because her soul maybe lives there now due to the sacrifice. The same could be said for Nat? Maybe even Tony’s daughter actually; but that’s probably a whole other fan theory about what she might get up to later in her life!
Actually makes a ton of sense? - 5
Peter Parker's Parents Died In The 9/11 Attacks
From Redditor /u/myckount:
So, I recently watched Spider-Man: Homecoming for the third time, and I started noticing some things:
At the beginning, when Happy asks Peter if this is the first time he's been on a private jet, Peter responds, "this is the first time I've been on ANY plane."
Peter's first interaction with the Vulture is when the latter catches the former by surprise and dragging him up through the air, which terrifies Peter immensely.
In D.C., when trying to save his classmates, Peter stops cold once he's at the top of the Washington Monument. When Karen asks why, Peter says "I've never been this high before," implying this version of Spider-Man has a fear of heights.
The climax of the movie involves Spider-Man both clawing his way out of demolished building debris caused by an enemy aeriel combatant as well as stopping a plane from crashing into the New York skyline.
MCU movies post-Avengers tend to take place in the year they are released. While Homecoming's "8 years" line threw a wrench in things, Infinity War confirmed that the time span between Avengers 1 and Avengers 3 has been 6 years, 2012-2018.
Homecoming confirms that Spider-Man is 15 years old.
If Civil War takes place in it's release year, 2016, Homecoming takes place two months after Civil War, and Peter is 15 years old, that means Peter Parker was born in 2001.
My theory is that shortly after Peter Parker was born, his parents died during 9/11. Once he got old enough, Uncle Ben told him about the event, which caused Peter to develop a fear of heights that did not go away when he first became Spider-Man.
Actually makes a ton of sense? - 6
Cap Is Suicidal In 'The Winter Soldier'
From Redditor /u/LOG4NLUCKY:
In TWS he is clearly suffering from depression, he can't deal with the new world and the immorality of it, he lost his friends, his love and because of it he feels lonely. After learning about HYDRA and Bucky he feels everything he has done before is meaningless and his beliefs are shattered by the truth, I think the reason why he wore that WW2 suit and made himself more vaulnerable wasn't just to remind Bucky of who he really is. I think he wanted to get himself killed while trying to save the world. It would've been an ideal ending for him. He saw a good sucessor in Sam Wilson and he knew that Sam would carry his mantle.
Actually makes a ton of sense?
